with my red card. I told the police that I had a photocopy at home, but they didn’t believe me. I told them in Greek that I had legal residency in Greece, but they didn’t believe me. They took me to the police station and after three hours they took me to the border with stops in Thirea, where we picked up about 16 persons, and Orestiada, where we picked up another 25. About 25 Greek commandos put us on a wooden motor boat in groups of ten. I was caught by the Turkish gendarmes on the other side and brought here to Tunca. The Turkish police beat me. I would like to contact the Greek embassy because I have residency there and permission to work in Greece.291 One of the ironies for long-term residents in Greece who fall out of the asylum procedure is that their children born in Greece also become undocumented along with their parents, ineligible for higher education, and susceptible to being deported with their parents. A 46-year-old Iraqi man from Dahok who has been living in Greece for 16 years was a redcard holder until two years ago when he went before the Appeals Committee and his asylum claim was denied: I have a big problem. I have three children in school. Two of them are born here in Greece and have birth certificates showing they were born here. But now they too have deportation orders. For them to take the exams for university they need a paper showing legal residence. They will not be able to sit for the exams and they will not be able to go to university. I don’t know what I shall do for my children.292 Iraqi Red-Card Holders Few of the long-term Iraqi red-card holders Human Rights Watch interviewed expressed any confidence in their ability to become legally secure or to integrate in Greece. A high school teacher who has been living in Greece for eight years, a leader in the Christian community, expressed sentiments widely shared in his community, “No one ever gets 291 Human Rights Watch interview (name withheld, B-106), Edirne, June 11, 2008. 292 Human Rights Watch interview (name withheld, B-75), Athens, June 4, 2008. Stuck in a Revolving Door 108